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30-32mbps only

Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:26 pm

Hi,
i have a 433UAH and R52N mini pci board.
My laptop has a azurawave atheros 9285 chipset.
If R52N is setup on a/b/g 2.4ghz i have 65mbps connection on laptop
but on speed test i have only 32-33mbps on wireless.
There is a limitation to 30mbps ?
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:12 pm

Welcome to the wonderful world of 802.11 and marketing.

Basically the 65 mbit is the raw low-level speed, before overhead has been taken into account, and 802.11 has significant overhead.

This is why some alternative technologies seem slower, because those technologies quote the actual speed you will get, rather than the low-level protocol speed.
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:18 pm

I see, i don't have a wonderful chipset. I't only a Atheros 9285 that suport only 1x1 mimo.
I ordered a 9280 chipset that support 2x2 mimo. This will be compatible with 9220 from R52N.
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:53 pm

Welcome to the wonderful world of 802.11 and marketing.

Basically the 65 mbit is the raw low-level speed, before overhead has been taken into account, and 802.11 has significant overhead.

This is why some alternative technologies seem slower, because those technologies quote the actual speed you will get, rather than the low-level protocol speed.
I thought it was more because speed tests expect full duplex operation, and wireless only works in half duplex? Forgive me if I'm wrong.
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:11 pm

Welcome to the wonderful world of 802.11 and marketing.

Basically the 65 mbit is the raw low-level speed, before overhead has been taken into account, and 802.11 has significant overhead.

This is why some alternative technologies seem slower, because those technologies quote the actual speed you will get, rather than the low-level protocol speed.
I thought it was more because speed tests expect full duplex operation, and wireless only works in half duplex? Forgive me if I'm wrong.
也许吧。无线更排版licated that lan. I will see.
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:04 am

I suppose there would be some bandwidth "lost" due to layer-3 ack packets having to come back the other direction, but its a pretty small amount, certainly much less than 50%. 802.11 does not reserve bandwidth, so if you have no traffic in one direction, you should be able to get full speed in the other, minus its overhead. Part of that overhead though is that 802.11 has its own layer-2 ack packets.

Many speed tests test one direction, and then the other. The RouterOS speed test can test one direction, the other direction, or both directions simulaneously.

In the case of an 802.11 link, the both directions test should be half the speed of either of the single direction tests. (And if one direction is different than the other direction, then you probably have an interference or signal or power level problem in one direction that is different than the other).
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Re: 30-32mbps only

Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:29 am

I suppose there would be some bandwidth "lost" due to layer-3 ack packets having to come back the other direction, but its a pretty small amount, certainly much less than 50%. 802.11 does not reserve bandwidth, so if you have no traffic in one direction, you should be able to get full speed in the other, minus its overhead. Part of that overhead though is that 802.11 has its own layer-2 ack packets.

Many speed tests test one direction, and then the other. The RouterOS speed test can test one direction, the other direction, or both directions simulaneously.

In the case of an 802.11 link, the both directions test should be half the speed of either of the single direction tests. (And if one direction is different than the other direction, then you probably have an interference or signal or power level problem in one direction that is different than the other).
I don't know what is problem. maybe a setup screenshoot of ap in 2.4Ghz N, will be good for example.
The environment is:
Mikrotik RB433UAH, 17db Atennna, R52N.
Atenna is conected to R52N on antenna connector 1. Connector 2 is free.
HT Channel is enabled on 2412 , above channel, WMM enabled, 20mhz.
Laptop has Atheros 9285 1x1 mimo.
With laptop i connected on Ubiquity M2HP at 65mbps at 20mhz, and 150mbps at 40mhz. So the laptop can receive full duplex. Problem is from communication of R52N with Azurawave Chipset with Atheros 9285. I'm waiting the new 9280 Atheros card to see if it's work. 9280 whould work because 9220 and 9280 are simmilar wireless chipset. Draft 2.0 N.
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