I don't have any antennas connected at the moment, but I did order the two HGO OUT antennas, but to my understanding from Mikrotik's website those are meant for lower range use, not long range. I can't even go past 20 feet without it starting to disconnect and shit on me.you never explained what antennas you connected?
Also, dont use bars, tell us the actual signal strength. Although with an attitude like that i can't image you getting much help
Have it indoors for testing at the moment. If I take the T470 or my phone and go farther than about 7-10 feet away it starting disconnecting when trying to run iperf or speedtest.you never explained what antennas you connected?
Also, dont use bars, tell us the actual signal strength. Although with an attitude like that i can't image you getting much help
Any reason Mikrotik doesn't tell us that on their site? The literal description implies antennas are only needed for close range. I can't go more than 20 feet and expect to get a signal at all!I mean you can clearly see that your RSSI is -89 which is why your speeds are poor.
you need to put external antennas on
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What long range antenna do you recommend?I mean you can clearly see that your RSSI is -89 which is why your speeds are poor.
you need to put external antennas on
Damn, someone recommended this to me as a more tough outdoor ap.I think you bought completely the wrong product tbh.
This is used to build PTP wireless links over _long_ distances, not cover your room/yard.
For inside use you should be using hap AC/hap ac2 for outside, not sure, maybe a wap/omnitik will be best.
I swear to god there wasn't. I'm so embarrassed now ffs. I should've stayed with Ruckus unleashed or ubiquiti.LOL usually there is a yellow sticker inside that says: Never ever connect without antennas attached.
I absolutely fully disagree...but choosing the correct product is necessary.I swear to god there wasn't. I'm so embarrassed now ffs. I should've stayed with Ruckus unleashed or ubiquiti.
Ran a speedtest on the complete other side of my house, on my S20 Ultra, got 250mbps down. That is like double what the Ruckus gets around here.I absolutely fully disagree...but choosing the correct product is necessary.I swear to god there wasn't. I'm so embarrassed now ffs. I should've stayed with Ruckus unleashed or ubiquiti.
What does antenna gain do? Like does it increase signal or like close range etc? I see the antenna is rated to 5-7dB gain for 5GHz. Not sure if I should put 5 in that box that currently has "Antenna Gain 0".I think you bought completely the wrong product tbh.
This is used to build PTP wireless links over _long_ distances, not cover your room/yard.
For inside use you should be using hap AC/hap ac2 for outside, not sure, maybe a wap/omnitik will be best.
Thank you, will leave gain at 0. The chains are checked for 0 wlan2/5GHz and on wlan1/2.4GHz chain 1 is checked.setting the antenna gain will lower tx power to fit inside your regulatory domain - rather leave it, its just going to decrease range.
Click HT, make sure both tx/rx chains 0 & 1 are ticked.
Only other thing may be to select the least occupied frequency (do a scan on wlan2, make sure you are cabled into the device), chose a channel that isn't being used. Take into account your extension channels i.e. if you are using 5180 as your frequency and you Ceee then 5180,5200,5220,5240 will all need to be as clean as possible
"Antenna gain=0" ... advising people to go illegal? The signal will be too strong also! Fill in the real antenna gain, depending on the gain of the used antenna, or higher if you want to reduce the distortion and radiation, if the received signal allows for reduction. The radio will last longer as well.setting the antenna gain will lower tx power to fit inside your regulatory domain - rather leave it, its just going to decrease range.
Click HT, make sure both tx/rx chains 0 & 1 are ticked.
Only other thing may be to select the least occupied frequency (do a scan on wlan2, make sure you are cabled into the device), chose a channel that isn't being used. Take into account your extension channels i.e. if you are using 5180 as your frequency and you Ceee then 5180,5200,5220,5240 will all need to be as clean as possible
Check all chains for all bands. You have 4 chains in total. Using both chains will double the interface rate if the client also has 2 chains.Thank you, will leave gain at 0. The chains are checked for 0 wlan2/5GHz and on wlan1/2.4GHz chain 1 is checked.setting the antenna gain will lower tx power to fit inside your regulatory domain - rather leave it, its just going to decrease range.
Click HT, make sure both tx/rx chains 0 & 1 are ticked.
Only other thing may be to select the least occupied frequency (do a scan on wlan2, make sure you are cabled into the device), chose a channel that isn't being used. Take into account your extension channels i.e. if you are using 5180 as your frequency and you Ceee then 5180,5200,5220,5240 will all need to be as clean as possible
Just to confirm, on wlan2/5GHz check chain 0 and chain 1?
Thank you so much for your help, this is why I continue to buy Mikrotik. Yeah ubiquiti and ruckus require less tinkering, but they cost more and have way less helpful communities.
Thank you, I'll look into long range antennas for sure. But yeah I don't know why it didn't click in my head that antennas were needed.The netmetal AC2 is a great unit, do not be embarrassed.
Its max flex and allows you to server small area with omni antennas OR longer range with diff antennas.
It comes with dual chains. (AC1200)
It probably has a better capacity to be outdoor then other products.
It can handle IPSEC has lots of guts. Standard ethernet throughput is really decent.
Even can accept an LTE mini slot for external cellular connectivity if your main internet goes down.
I dont see much better options maybe the omnitik 5-AC - which is great for 5ghz but has no 2.4ghz coverage or so it seems. (fixed antennas and limited throughput numbers).
Thus the netmetal covers a wider range of uses.
Thanks for the good laugh at attempting wifi without antennas. I have done similar things LOL
PS. The netmetal is what I would get for outdoor and probably with an antenna that has a 180 sector such that I dont get leakage into the house area.
YOU should be very embarrassed @archerious .... the Ruckus E510 EATS Netmetal AC2 lunch buy a country mileThank you, I'll look into long range antennas for sure. But yeah I don't know why it didn't click in my head that antennas were needed.
This is why you should not be giving product advice! A netmetal with sector is such bad advice for a home user.PS. The netmetal is what I would get for outdoor and probably with an antenna that has a 180 sector such that I dont get leakage into the house area.
I'm confused now.This is why you should not be giving product advice! A netmetal with sector is such bad advice for a home user.PS. The netmetal is what I would get for outdoor and probably with an antenna that has a 180 sector such that I dont get leakage into the house area.
By the way, the best value Outdoor product for a home user is the wAP AC that I suggested in the OP (viewtopic.php?f=13&t=161327&p=795895#p794381).
Fuck me, another fuckup on my part. Ugh.Long range on Mikrotik marketing is usually referring to multiple km with high gain antennas and not covering a back yard.
wAP交流上有3个链5 ghz相比2茶ns of the netmetal. And the wAP is the same enclosure as the wireless wire (wAPG-60adkit), so it will be just fine outdoors.
Hi 2 Frogs, not sure why I didn't see the wapac before as an option but yes the 3 chains are attractive.Long range on Mikrotik marketing is usually referring to multiple km with high gain antennas and not covering a back yard.
wAP交流上有3个链5 ghz相比2茶ns of the netmetal. And the wAP is the same enclosure as the wireless wire (wAPG-60adkit), so it will be just fine outdoors.
Correct use of a directional antenna requires the operator to turn down the TXpower of the radio. EIRP is calcullated from the point with the largest antenna gain, and then supposed to be isotropic (The I in EIRP). So if you use a 15dBi antenna instead of a 2 dBi antenna the TXpower must be lowered by 13dB.Anav,你需要阅读天线辐射帕特terns. Antennas radiate their power in lobes, even omni antennas. The more directional the antenna, the more the lobes are concentrated in one direction and typically there are more lobes. Back lobes are what you need to pay attention to. They radiate off the back of directional antenna, but at much lower gains. For the 15 dbi 120 deg sector antenna you referenced, you could still see a 1-2 dbi gain to the back side of the antenna in effect making it a omni at near range (100-300 ft compared to the 1.86 miles.) This is the main reason it is always recommended to have spatial distance as well as frequency separation between such antennas.
Another draw back of using the sector antenna you recommend is the receiving end of the AP. That 1.86 miles goes both directions, so now your are dealing with interference from such distances.
Another draw back of using the sector antenna you recommend is the receiving end of the AP. That 1.86 miles goes both directions, so now your are dealing with interference from such distances.